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of played his game a little harder around new year's eve when the debt ceiling thing was going on because we need more taxes. this chain cpi, i don't think it's that terrible because when prices go up on certain things we buy, we as consumers do make choices to substitute for other product. sorry the highest respect for elizabeth warren i'm so happy she is in the senate -- >> stephanie: me too. and nancy pelosi agrees with you on that. >> yeah, we're in a world of tough decisions, stephanie. there just aren't any easy decisions anymore. it is going to hurt. the best thing we can all do -- david [ inaudible ] from the "new york times" wrote a small book about how the budget works. it's just interesting to understand what gets spent and how and then every one of us no matter whether we're liberal or conservative make an informed decision to say what am i prepared to give up, because it is going to be about giving something up. it's not going to be about getting more right now. >> stephanie: yeah, i do agree with you on -- that was the only leverage the president had w
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